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	<title>Comments on: A SPY IN OUR MIDST: Montgomery Sapone/Montgomery McFate</title>
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	<description>Turning and turning in the widening gyre &#124; The falcon cannot hear the falconer &#124; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold &#124; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world &#124; The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere &#124; The ceremony of innocence is drowned &#124; The best lack all conviction, while the worst &#124; Are full of passionate intensity. -- W.B. Yeats, The Second Coming</description>
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		<title>By: Suspect Media: Making Propaganda for the Human Terrain System &#171; OPEN ANTHROPOLOGY</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/07/31/a-spy-in-our-midst-montgomery-saponemontgomery-mcfate/#comment-2074</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] she did indeed work as a spy, it&#8217;s not an allegation. So try this instead, Mr. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/07/31/a-spy-in-our-midst-montgomery-saponemontgomery-mcfate/#comment-1350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In terms of exceptions, I should not have started a list above, since lists are almost always unfair for not being comprehensive and leaving some out. One example being my leaving out Dylan Kerrigan&#039;s post, &lt;a href=&quot;http://gimmeculture.blogspot.com/2008/08/anthropology-and-military.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Anthropology and the Military&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of exceptions, I should not have started a list above, since lists are almost always unfair for not being comprehensive and leaving some out. One example being my leaving out Dylan Kerrigan&#8217;s post, <a href="http://gimmeculture.blogspot.com/2008/08/anthropology-and-military.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Anthropology and the Military</b></a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Updates: Spy in Our Midst; Washington Post on Minerva &#171; OPEN ANTHROPOLOGY</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 5, 2008 &#183; No Comments  Concerning the post titled A SPY IN OUR MIDST, both the discussion has continued on this blog, with more blogs joining in and picking up on the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 5, 2008 &middot; No Comments  Concerning the post titled A SPY IN OUR MIDST, both the discussion has continued on this blog, with more blogs joining in and picking up on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/07/31/a-spy-in-our-midst-montgomery-saponemontgomery-mcfate/#comment-1346</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thinking about that outline of blogger positions as this latest round of debate started, I realized that while I can see examples of each position, I left out other possibilities, such as people picking up where I left off. Alex Golub (&quot;Rex&quot;) went from the second position to the fifth, and that was only when Savage Minds readers began to complain about the absence of SM bloggers from the debate on their own blog. Ever defensive, and just a little too smug, Golub used the opportunity to complain about the complaints and then at one point took the side of McFate/Dee in saying it was fair to &quot;decry&quot; my engaging in &quot;villification&quot; (sic). Good of him to embrace a public official, in the employ of the military, with a definitely mean anti-anthropological mission, within the fold of what he thinks is collegiality. Good of Golub to reduce the matter to whether an ad hominem was used improperly. Unfortunately, it all misses the point. 

Luckily, other commenters with better developed political, ethical, and moral consciences necessary to sustain determined opposition came and said virtually all of the same things I have been saying on this blog. Otherwise I am afraid that Golub missed the big picture, though he did an excellent job of pinning &quot;Dee&quot; down repeatedly for her continual lack of substantiation for any of her counter claims and allegations. I raised that in my very first encounter with &quot;Dee&quot; over a month ago, and by now I had had enough to proceed to my own conclusions. 

Have I been polite? I hope that I have not been so too often, it would be a terrible way to put collegial lipstick on a militarist pig.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking about that outline of blogger positions as this latest round of debate started, I realized that while I can see examples of each position, I left out other possibilities, such as people picking up where I left off. Alex Golub (&#8220;Rex&#8221;) went from the second position to the fifth, and that was only when Savage Minds readers began to complain about the absence of SM bloggers from the debate on their own blog. Ever defensive, and just a little too smug, Golub used the opportunity to complain about the complaints and then at one point took the side of McFate/Dee in saying it was fair to &#8220;decry&#8221; my engaging in &#8220;villification&#8221; (sic). Good of him to embrace a public official, in the employ of the military, with a definitely mean anti-anthropological mission, within the fold of what he thinks is collegiality. Good of Golub to reduce the matter to whether an ad hominem was used improperly. Unfortunately, it all misses the point. </p>
<p>Luckily, other commenters with better developed political, ethical, and moral consciences necessary to sustain determined opposition came and said virtually all of the same things I have been saying on this blog. Otherwise I am afraid that Golub missed the big picture, though he did an excellent job of pinning &#8220;Dee&#8221; down repeatedly for her continual lack of substantiation for any of her counter claims and allegations. I raised that in my very first encounter with &#8220;Dee&#8221; over a month ago, and by now I had had enough to proceed to my own conclusions. </p>
<p>Have I been polite? I hope that I have not been so too often, it would be a terrible way to put collegial lipstick on a militarist pig.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/07/31/a-spy-in-our-midst-montgomery-saponemontgomery-mcfate/#comment-1317</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks G. Hockett, because that is a good question. Right now, at least on some anthropology blogs, there seems to be some resistance to criticism. In fact, I get the impression that some are more likely to criticize the critic than look closely at what is being criticized and why. Obviously there are welcome exceptions, such as yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks G. Hockett, because that is a good question. Right now, at least on some anthropology blogs, there seems to be some resistance to criticism. In fact, I get the impression that some are more likely to criticize the critic than look closely at what is being criticized and why. Obviously there are welcome exceptions, such as yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Hockett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G. Hockett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seeing one of Mrs. McFate&#039;s most steadfast supporters and defenders, Marc Tyrrell, posting here makes me wonder what Tyrrell and other military working anthropologists think of the latest disclosures about McFate&#039;s infiltrating and spying on American political groups, her $400,000 a year payments from Human Terrain, problems with no-bid contracts at HTT?

At what point do you guys criticize your own? It seems that the counterinsurgency manual&#039;s plagiarism didn&#039;t phase you, AAA condemnations for unethical practices in Human Terrain didn&#039;t matter, now we learn of these corrupt practices, so what will it take?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing one of Mrs. McFate&#8217;s most steadfast supporters and defenders, Marc Tyrrell, posting here makes me wonder what Tyrrell and other military working anthropologists think of the latest disclosures about McFate&#8217;s infiltrating and spying on American political groups, her $400,000 a year payments from Human Terrain, problems with no-bid contracts at HTT?</p>
<p>At what point do you guys criticize your own? It seems that the counterinsurgency manual&#8217;s plagiarism didn&#8217;t phase you, AAA condemnations for unethical practices in Human Terrain didn&#8217;t matter, now we learn of these corrupt practices, so what will it take?</p>
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		<title>By: Secrecy, Anonymity, Spying, and Lying: An Overview of the &#8220;Ethics&#8221; of HTS Infiltration &#171; OPEN ANTHROPOLOGY</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] follows from the previous post, A SPY IN OUR MIDST, featuring a Mother Jones report of the spying done by Montgomery McFate on behalf of corporations [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: &#187; When politics becomes asymmetric, symbolic warfare In Harmonium: Being in the main the musings of a Symbolic Anthropologist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#187; When politics becomes asymmetric, symbolic warfare In Harmonium: Being in the main the musings of a Symbolic Anthropologist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I don&#8217;t usually write about politics. This isn&#8217;t because I don&#8217;t have strong political beliefs (I do) but, rather, because I prefer to devote my time and energies to other things. This wasn&#8217;t always the case, as a few of my close friends know, and I like to think that I am still engaged in a political / advocacy struggle when it comes to science and, in particular, Anthropology. I am breaking with tradition because of a recent article that showed up in Mother Jones and one, particular response to it by Max Forte. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I don&#8217;t usually write about politics. This isn&#8217;t because I don&#8217;t have strong political beliefs (I do) but, rather, because I prefer to devote my time and energies to other things. This wasn&#8217;t always the case, as a few of my close friends know, and I like to think that I am still engaged in a political / advocacy struggle when it comes to science and, in particular, Anthropology. I am breaking with tradition because of a recent article that showed up in Mother Jones and one, particular response to it by Max Forte. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Tyrrell</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/07/31/a-spy-in-our-midst-montgomery-saponemontgomery-mcfate/#comment-1237</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marc Tyrrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Max, thanks for posting this and for your comments.  Lots to think about and I&#039;ll be posting on it later myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, thanks for posting this and for your comments.  Lots to think about and I&#8217;ll be posting on it later myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/07/31/a-spy-in-our-midst-montgomery-saponemontgomery-mcfate/#comment-1234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beth, thanks for your post here, I just wanted to ask if you could find any more details about what you mentioned above, &quot;two victims of the COIN manual are preparing to take legal action.&quot; If so please feel free to post them here or to write to me by email (see my About the blogger page for email links).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth, thanks for your post here, I just wanted to ask if you could find any more details about what you mentioned above, &#8220;two victims of the COIN manual are preparing to take legal action.&#8221; If so please feel free to post them here or to write to me by email (see my About the blogger page for email links).</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Iraq war has become so dirty and so dependent on mercenaries that no one in the Pentagon or white house care that McFate appears to be so unstable, plagiarized from others (have others heard that two victims of the COIN manual are preparing to take legal action?), engages in domestic espionage, can&#039;t keep her story straight...and isn&#039;t a very good anthropologist.

We know the military doesn&#039;t care, but what about the AAA?  We need some motions as the business meeting to publicly sort out what anthropology does and doesn&#039;t stand for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Iraq war has become so dirty and so dependent on mercenaries that no one in the Pentagon or white house care that McFate appears to be so unstable, plagiarized from others (have others heard that two victims of the COIN manual are preparing to take legal action?), engages in domestic espionage, can&#8217;t keep her story straight&#8230;and isn&#8217;t a very good anthropologist.</p>
<p>We know the military doesn&#8217;t care, but what about the AAA?  We need some motions as the business meeting to publicly sort out what anthropology does and doesn&#8217;t stand for.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/07/31/a-spy-in-our-midst-montgomery-saponemontgomery-mcfate/#comment-1204</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guanaguanare, Guanaguanare ... your comment left me thinking long and hard about a great many issues, and as my comrade I always appreciate the inspiration that you, and of course our mutual friend Roi, gave/give to me and in many ways reshaped how I see what I do as an anthropologist. Roi said in one of his music poems that he wished he could &quot;light a big mauve candle to shine light on the injustices in the global village,&quot; that he wished he were &quot;an obeah man, manifesting and distributing spirit blows&quot;...and as you know his life and his passage left a very deep imprint on me.

Let me start by answering your very perceptive comment this way: this is a fundamentally &lt;b&gt;political&lt;/b&gt; struggle, and a fundamentally &lt;b&gt;public&lt;/b&gt; one. One has to grasp this first before deciding what to do as an anthropologist, in public, in a political conflict. I tend to think of politics in political terms, that is, in terms of strategies and tactics, in terms of positionality, intentionality, and consequences. Anthropology bloggers need to remind themselves that these blogs have no walls -- they are in public now, not sequestered within a private, departmental setting where their statements, or silence, will have little consequence beyond the walls of their respective institutions. Knowing that, you would think, would lead them to understand themselves in a different light, and to have a heightened self-consciousness of their social positions.

I think there are at least five positions that I see marked out in a public debate such as this one, where anthropology bloggers are concerned (by the way, I loved &quot;parasitic bloggerati&quot;...it reminds me of Panday&#039;s &quot;parasitic oligarchy&quot;). The &lt;b&gt;first&lt;/b&gt; is a position of fear, or apprehension: I am young, I have a lot at stake, I have no tenure, or as a student my supervisor will hate me if I say the wrong thing, this could mark me forever, things change, I better leave my options open, I should stay silent. The &lt;b&gt;second&lt;/b&gt; position is that of spectator, who sits back and watches things unfold as if they were being played out for his/her amusement and entertainment. The &lt;b&gt;third&lt;/b&gt; is the one whose favourite position, embodied by a messenger on the bloodied side of the argument, effects a tactical retreat into the shadows, looking to snipe in more abstract terms in the future, from the sidelines, in terms of &quot;objectivity&quot;, etc. The &lt;b&gt; fourth &lt;/b&gt; is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://openanthropology.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/careful-the-guards-might-be-watching-notes-on-being-pragmatic-in-the-shitstem/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;apolitical intellectual&lt;/a&gt;, who thinks, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that one can be scientific and detached from political beings in political contexts in political conflict, a terrible mismatch that produces literally unbelievable results, as in not credible. The &lt;b&gt; fifth&lt;/b&gt;, and  perhaps the one I like the least of all, is what I am calling the &lt;b&gt;&quot;12th hour, 1st minute, middle messiah&quot;&lt;/b&gt; -- the one who decides to make an entry only &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;après-coup&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. This is the person who waits for the battle to have taken its course, the sea parted by the combatants leaving a nice, clean and open platform, to step in and say, &quot;Here I am, the calm and polite voice of reason, the synthesis, the mapper of the third way, you can all disarm now and collectively breathe a sigh of academic relief as I return you to normalcy.&quot; That is a cynical exploiter who profits from the work of others, who has a side, and pretends to be &quot;more&quot; objective.

On the whole, given that anthropology bloggers have by and large remained silent, watching this struggle unfold, I am not accusing them of anything, knowing the varied positions above, but they must be reminded one of the most basic realities and outcomes of public, political struggles, and that is: their silence is damning.

Keep in mind that McFate repeated over and over that my blog was NOT (her capitals) the model that should be followed, the way to debate, etc., etc. She wanted this silenced and wanted to instruct others on the proper terms for engaging in critique, naturally in a way that would favour her most. I would have been chilled to see her feeling at home on this blog, I would take it as an indictment.

Finally, and my apologies for this off the cuff essay here: messenger + message. In public politics, leadership, charisma, image, and role modeling matter, and the military and &quot;patriotic&quot; media know that. This whole ugly story began with all of us being lectured at that we were safe, comfortable academics (McFate&#039;s words), lounging in our Ivory Towers of social irresponsibility and self-indulgence, and by our inaction we were basically making life easier for the enemies of the Whole Universe As We White Western Christians Know It. I could be itsy bitsy and say, &quot;now that&#039;s a personal attack, that&#039;s slander.&quot; But I didn&#039;t. My response was, &quot;Well if this is the new role model for us to follow, let&#039;s have a closer look.&quot; And the issues are not disconnected either, that is, spying and the Human Terrain System. In both cases McFate&#039;s applied anthropology manifested contempt for the &quot;locals,&quot; for activists or insurgents fighting to defend their countries. In both cases there is a position of political support for corporate power, for maintaining the status quo. In both cases there is an attempt to suppress and subvert dissent. This is police state/ imperial anthropology, which she and her sponsors tried to sell by, very foolishly, fatally, using her as the champion.

Those who don&#039;t understand this, need to hurry and catch up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guanaguanare, Guanaguanare &#8230; your comment left me thinking long and hard about a great many issues, and as my comrade I always appreciate the inspiration that you, and of course our mutual friend Roi, gave/give to me and in many ways reshaped how I see what I do as an anthropologist. Roi said in one of his music poems that he wished he could &#8220;light a big mauve candle to shine light on the injustices in the global village,&#8221; that he wished he were &#8220;an obeah man, manifesting and distributing spirit blows&#8221;&#8230;and as you know his life and his passage left a very deep imprint on me.</p>
<p>Let me start by answering your very perceptive comment this way: this is a fundamentally <b>political</b> struggle, and a fundamentally <b>public</b> one. One has to grasp this first before deciding what to do as an anthropologist, in public, in a political conflict. I tend to think of politics in political terms, that is, in terms of strategies and tactics, in terms of positionality, intentionality, and consequences. Anthropology bloggers need to remind themselves that these blogs have no walls &#8212; they are in public now, not sequestered within a private, departmental setting where their statements, or silence, will have little consequence beyond the walls of their respective institutions. Knowing that, you would think, would lead them to understand themselves in a different light, and to have a heightened self-consciousness of their social positions.</p>
<p>I think there are at least five positions that I see marked out in a public debate such as this one, where anthropology bloggers are concerned (by the way, I loved &#8220;parasitic bloggerati&#8221;&#8230;it reminds me of Panday&#8217;s &#8220;parasitic oligarchy&#8221;). The <b>first</b> is a position of fear, or apprehension: I am young, I have a lot at stake, I have no tenure, or as a student my supervisor will hate me if I say the wrong thing, this could mark me forever, things change, I better leave my options open, I should stay silent. The <b>second</b> position is that of spectator, who sits back and watches things unfold as if they were being played out for his/her amusement and entertainment. The <b>third</b> is the one whose favourite position, embodied by a messenger on the bloodied side of the argument, effects a tactical retreat into the shadows, looking to snipe in more abstract terms in the future, from the sidelines, in terms of &#8220;objectivity&#8221;, etc. The <b> fourth </b> is the <a href="http://openanthropology.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/careful-the-guards-might-be-watching-notes-on-being-pragmatic-in-the-shitstem/" rel="nofollow">apolitical intellectual</a>, who thinks, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that one can be scientific and detached from political beings in political contexts in political conflict, a terrible mismatch that produces literally unbelievable results, as in not credible. The <b> fifth</b>, and  perhaps the one I like the least of all, is what I am calling the <b>&#8220;12th hour, 1st minute, middle messiah&#8221;</b> &#8212; the one who decides to make an entry only <strong><em>après-coup</em></strong>. This is the person who waits for the battle to have taken its course, the sea parted by the combatants leaving a nice, clean and open platform, to step in and say, &#8220;Here I am, the calm and polite voice of reason, the synthesis, the mapper of the third way, you can all disarm now and collectively breathe a sigh of academic relief as I return you to normalcy.&#8221; That is a cynical exploiter who profits from the work of others, who has a side, and pretends to be &#8220;more&#8221; objective.</p>
<p>On the whole, given that anthropology bloggers have by and large remained silent, watching this struggle unfold, I am not accusing them of anything, knowing the varied positions above, but they must be reminded one of the most basic realities and outcomes of public, political struggles, and that is: their silence is damning.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that McFate repeated over and over that my blog was NOT (her capitals) the model that should be followed, the way to debate, etc., etc. She wanted this silenced and wanted to instruct others on the proper terms for engaging in critique, naturally in a way that would favour her most. I would have been chilled to see her feeling at home on this blog, I would take it as an indictment.</p>
<p>Finally, and my apologies for this off the cuff essay here: messenger + message. In public politics, leadership, charisma, image, and role modeling matter, and the military and &#8220;patriotic&#8221; media know that. This whole ugly story began with all of us being lectured at that we were safe, comfortable academics (McFate&#8217;s words), lounging in our Ivory Towers of social irresponsibility and self-indulgence, and by our inaction we were basically making life easier for the enemies of the Whole Universe As We White Western Christians Know It. I could be itsy bitsy and say, &#8220;now that&#8217;s a personal attack, that&#8217;s slander.&#8221; But I didn&#8217;t. My response was, &#8220;Well if this is the new role model for us to follow, let&#8217;s have a closer look.&#8221; And the issues are not disconnected either, that is, spying and the Human Terrain System. In both cases McFate&#8217;s applied anthropology manifested contempt for the &#8220;locals,&#8221; for activists or insurgents fighting to defend their countries. In both cases there is a position of political support for corporate power, for maintaining the status quo. In both cases there is an attempt to suppress and subvert dissent. This is police state/ imperial anthropology, which she and her sponsors tried to sell by, very foolishly, fatally, using her as the champion.</p>
<p>Those who don&#8217;t understand this, need to hurry and catch up.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Warren, coincidentally that is how I found your own excellent post today, doing a blog search for other coverage of this issue. I especially like this question that you raised: &quot;Anyone who deals with these people is asking for serious trouble--there&#039;s no telling who they would sell out to make a dollar. For all we know, Sapone and her family are selling secrets to the highest bidder--and that&#039;s not hyperbole when you speculate that they have the capability to do that kind of thing, coupled with a long history of actually doing it. You have to seriously question anyone who acts as a &quot;mercenary&quot; and is willing to spend years--years--duping people for money. Who know what they&#039;ve been up to, or who they plan to sell out next.&quot; Right now, if I were one of her employers, I would be stopping to think seriously about this.

I also like the observation made by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nazg.com/iqrai/index.php/2008/07/31/anthro-quick-hits-telos-and-mcfate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Iqra&#039;i&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;DO NOT: design Pentagon-funded anthro-warrior schemes that make the anthropological establishment leery, then decide that the perfect anthropologist to present the public face of these schemes is the daughter-in-law (and former support staffer!) of a former gun-lobby double agent. (h/t Open Anthropology)&quot;

A diligent attempt was made to fuse messenger with message by those who believed in these activities, in this &quot;applied anthropology,&quot; and when their actions met with criticism the response was to demonize the critic in the hope of distracting from what was being criticized. I don&#039;t think it worked.

Thanks again and I will be adding your blogs to my lists on the side here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren, coincidentally that is how I found your own excellent post today, doing a blog search for other coverage of this issue. I especially like this question that you raised: &#8220;Anyone who deals with these people is asking for serious trouble&#8211;there&#8217;s no telling who they would sell out to make a dollar. For all we know, Sapone and her family are selling secrets to the highest bidder&#8211;and that&#8217;s not hyperbole when you speculate that they have the capability to do that kind of thing, coupled with a long history of actually doing it. You have to seriously question anyone who acts as a &#8220;mercenary&#8221; and is willing to spend years&#8211;years&#8211;duping people for money. Who know what they&#8217;ve been up to, or who they plan to sell out next.&#8221; Right now, if I were one of her employers, I would be stopping to think seriously about this.</p>
<p>I also like the observation made by <a href="http://www.nazg.com/iqrai/index.php/2008/07/31/anthro-quick-hits-telos-and-mcfate/" rel="nofollow">Iqra&#8217;i</a>: &#8220;DO NOT: design Pentagon-funded anthro-warrior schemes that make the anthropological establishment leery, then decide that the perfect anthropologist to present the public face of these schemes is the daughter-in-law (and former support staffer!) of a former gun-lobby double agent. (h/t Open Anthropology)&#8221;</p>
<p>A diligent attempt was made to fuse messenger with message by those who believed in these activities, in this &#8220;applied anthropology,&#8221; and when their actions met with criticism the response was to demonize the critic in the hope of distracting from what was being criticized. I don&#8217;t think it worked.</p>
<p>Thanks again and I will be adding your blogs to my lists on the side here.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Street</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this post--I&#039;m going to do a post tonight on Montgomery McFate, and add it to the one we already did on Mary McFate:

http://bluegirlredmissouri.blogspot.com/2008/07/beware-of-true-believers-around-you.html

Our blog is mostly progressive politics, defense issues and Veterans issues, and we have seen multiple &quot;pings&quot; on our site from people looking for stories on Montgomery McFate, as I am sure you will after this excellent post.

Let&#039;s just say that the level of interest in the activities of these people has set of warning bells everywhere, and I hope more people research and write about what they have been up to and will link back to your work here and cite what appears to be some pretty credible evidence of some serious ethical breaches and unprofessional behavior.

Thank you again,

Warren Street]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post&#8211;I&#8217;m going to do a post tonight on Montgomery McFate, and add it to the one we already did on Mary McFate:</p>
<p><a href="http://bluegirlredmissouri.blogspot.com/2008/07/beware-of-true-believers-around-you.html" rel="nofollow">http://bluegirlredmissouri.blogspot.com/2008/07/beware-of-true-believers-around-you.html</a></p>
<p>Our blog is mostly progressive politics, defense issues and Veterans issues, and we have seen multiple &#8220;pings&#8221; on our site from people looking for stories on Montgomery McFate, as I am sure you will after this excellent post.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just say that the level of interest in the activities of these people has set of warning bells everywhere, and I hope more people research and write about what they have been up to and will link back to your work here and cite what appears to be some pretty credible evidence of some serious ethical breaches and unprofessional behavior.</p>
<p>Thank you again,</p>
<p>Warren Street</p>
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		<title>By: Iqra&#8217;i: Anthro Quick Hits: Telos and McFate</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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