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	<title>Comments on: HTS &#8220;Contractor&#8221; Who Murdered Afghan, Now in Custody, Awaiting Trial (plus Stanton&#8217;s sixth article on the Human Terrain System)</title>
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	<description>Turning and turning in the widening gyre &#124; The falcon cannot hear the falconer &#124; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold &#124; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world &#124; The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere &#124; The ceremony of innocence is drowned &#124; The best lack all conviction, while the worst &#124; Are full of passionate intensity. -- W.B. Yeats, The Second Coming</description>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Legal News: The Open Anthropology Project and HTT</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/11/20/human-terrain-team-member-who-murdered-afghan-now-in-custody-stantons-sixth-article-on-the-human-terrain-system/#comment-3199</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Legal News: The Open Anthropology Project and HTT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on Twitter for sending me this link.  Here they talk about the HTT stuff, and there is a link to Ayala&#8217;s formal indictment. This is in regards to the incident were a HTT member was burned by a local Afghani, and then that [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on Twitter for sending me this link.  Here they talk about the HTT stuff, and there is a link to Ayala&#8217;s formal indictment. This is in regards to the incident were a HTT member was burned by a local Afghani, and then that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...except that some of us are not liberals. Loyd was trying to help Salam? Anyway, I do agree with your final sentence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;except that some of us are not liberals. Loyd was trying to help Salam? Anyway, I do agree with your final sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Scoobage</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/11/20/human-terrain-team-member-who-murdered-afghan-now-in-custody-stantons-sixth-article-on-the-human-terrain-system/#comment-3174</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scoobage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A contractor avenges the murder of liberal left social scientist (by person she is trying to help) Loyd (who criticized bad contractor behavior/demanded action in defense of target muslim population), for which he is held in a cage in shackles, faces a federal life sentence while victim Loyd&#039;s fellow liberals excoriate him as a murderer...we are so dekcuf as a nation: one step forward, two steps back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A contractor avenges the murder of liberal left social scientist (by person she is trying to help) Loyd (who criticized bad contractor behavior/demanded action in defense of target muslim population), for which he is held in a cage in shackles, faces a federal life sentence while victim Loyd&#8217;s fellow liberals excoriate him as a murderer&#8230;we are so dekcuf as a nation: one step forward, two steps back.</p>
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		<title>By: The Unreported Death of Staff Sgt. Paula Loyd of the Human Terrain System &#171; OPEN ANTHROPOLOGY</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/11/20/human-terrain-team-member-who-murdered-afghan-now-in-custody-stantons-sixth-article-on-the-human-terrain-system/#comment-3122</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Unreported Death of Staff Sgt. Paula Loyd of the Human Terrain System &#171; OPEN ANTHROPOLOGY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] posts about Loyd on this blog, including a video, are here and here, with additional discussion here and [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Readings Round-Up &#8211; mutually occluded</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/11/20/human-terrain-team-member-who-murdered-afghan-now-in-custody-stantons-sixth-article-on-the-human-terrain-system/#comment-2756</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Readings Round-Up &#8211; mutually occluded]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] articles on the implosion of the US military&#8217;s ill-conceived Human Terrain [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] articles on the implosion of the US military&#8217;s ill-conceived Human Terrain [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Sider: &#8220;Can Anthropology Ever Be Innocent?&#8221; &#171; OPEN ANTHROPOLOGY</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/11/20/human-terrain-team-member-who-murdered-afghan-now-in-custody-stantons-sixth-article-on-the-human-terrain-system/#comment-2723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald Sider: &#8220;Can Anthropology Ever Be Innocent?&#8221; &#171; OPEN ANTHROPOLOGY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a recent conference paper. It reveals much of what I write, and how I write on this blog, and some complaints of my toxic discourse are &#8212; not as intended &#8212; received as compliments.  (I still [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a recent conference paper. It reveals much of what I write, and how I write on this blog, and some complaints of my toxic discourse are &#8212; not as intended &#8212; received as compliments.  (I still [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/11/20/human-terrain-team-member-who-murdered-afghan-now-in-custody-stantons-sixth-article-on-the-human-terrain-system/#comment-2710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, absolutely. See &quot;About the Blogger&quot; at the top right, and click on the email link at the bottom of that page.

Cheers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, absolutely. See &#8220;About the Blogger&#8221; at the top right, and click on the email link at the bottom of that page.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Johnson</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/11/20/human-terrain-team-member-who-murdered-afghan-now-in-custody-stantons-sixth-article-on-the-human-terrain-system/#comment-2708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[those guys were probably surprised they would get opposition. They&#039;re probably not used to it so they decide to find a way to shut you up somehow. Which is kinda dumb considering you wouldn&#039;t even have a blog if you didn&#039;t have something to say.

Can I reach you by email? I want to chat about setting up a blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those guys were probably surprised they would get opposition. They&#8217;re probably not used to it so they decide to find a way to shut you up somehow. Which is kinda dumb considering you wouldn&#8217;t even have a blog if you didn&#8217;t have something to say.</p>
<p>Can I reach you by email? I want to chat about setting up a blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks again Mark,

because I can see Sam&#039;s little attempt at what some might call conversational terrorism, and what I would normally call the hypocrisy of the conservative (he pretends that he appreciates my &quot;take&quot; on imperialism in the meantime, which if it were true would mean that he understood the responses, which he did not).

The hypocrisy is this:
He could have taken my own responses as if they had been feedback that he had received on his own blog. His approach is to say: enough, I am going, I hate this. He obviously does not practice himself what he preaches so freely to others. Otherwise, by his own standards, he should have been cherishing, welcoming, and supporting my reply. Instead, he ran away, the equivalent of hitting delete. So much for his principles.

Don&#039;t worry though, I don&#039;t cater to those types, ever. This is not a classroom, this is not a meeting in a university, this is my blog, this is my time. Some of these dopes figure that all academics are some variety of eunuch, at all times and in all situations, and that even if not castrated then we must have some parent or legal guardian to hold our dicks while we piss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again Mark,</p>
<p>because I can see Sam&#8217;s little attempt at what some might call conversational terrorism, and what I would normally call the hypocrisy of the conservative (he pretends that he appreciates my &#8220;take&#8221; on imperialism in the meantime, which if it were true would mean that he understood the responses, which he did not).</p>
<p>The hypocrisy is this:<br />
He could have taken my own responses as if they had been feedback that he had received on his own blog. His approach is to say: enough, I am going, I hate this. He obviously does not practice himself what he preaches so freely to others. Otherwise, by his own standards, he should have been cherishing, welcoming, and supporting my reply. Instead, he ran away, the equivalent of hitting delete. So much for his principles.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry though, I don&#8217;t cater to those types, ever. This is not a classroom, this is not a meeting in a university, this is my blog, this is my time. Some of these dopes figure that all academics are some variety of eunuch, at all times and in all situations, and that even if not castrated then we must have some parent or legal guardian to hold our dicks while we piss.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Johnson</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/11/20/human-terrain-team-member-who-murdered-afghan-now-in-custody-stantons-sixth-article-on-the-human-terrain-system/#comment-2704</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny that you said in a post yesterday that the trolls would do a vanishing trick. They actually did. You would think they decided to show up as soon as they figured nobody was around to mind the store, lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny that you said in a post yesterday that the trolls would do a vanishing trick. They actually did. You would think they decided to show up as soon as they figured nobody was around to mind the store, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2008/11/20/human-terrain-team-member-who-murdered-afghan-now-in-custody-stantons-sixth-article-on-the-human-terrain-system/#comment-2703</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks very much Mark and it&#039;s a pleasure to know you are &quot;out there.&quot; Sam of course meant his message to be a public statement (or he would have sent it to me by email), and I am happy to oblige. He might have noticed that this blog allows anyone to comment freely, and that he was treated with respect. What he wanted to do was to jump right in without having done his homework first, so his comment was unwarranted and his allegation baseless. Frankly, I can do very well without that kind of &quot;attention&quot;, I am not in this as part of some numbers game.

I am glad that you appreciate this blog. Those who don&#039;t can go elsewhere, right?

Anyway Mark, thanks again, and now that you have posted your first comment please feel very free to post again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much Mark and it&#8217;s a pleasure to know you are &#8220;out there.&#8221; Sam of course meant his message to be a public statement (or he would have sent it to me by email), and I am happy to oblige. He might have noticed that this blog allows anyone to comment freely, and that he was treated with respect. What he wanted to do was to jump right in without having done his homework first, so his comment was unwarranted and his allegation baseless. Frankly, I can do very well without that kind of &#8220;attention&#8221;, I am not in this as part of some numbers game.</p>
<p>I am glad that you appreciate this blog. Those who don&#8217;t can go elsewhere, right?</p>
<p>Anyway Mark, thanks again, and now that you have posted your first comment please feel very free to post again.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Max

This is the first comment I am posting here because I was prompted by what &quot;Sam&quot; said. I actually do read your blog and I mean I really read it. Sam has ADD or just can&#039;t read, because your treatment of guests has almost always been very positive, respectful, and gentlemanly. 

Guests who abuse this blog or try to shut down opposing views, like they did with Mary, or who disrespect you personally don&#039;t win the right to any respect in return. It&#039;s simple, Sam should have figured this out on his own but was too lazy and one sided to bother.

Sam can go. I&#039;m staying. Thanks for this blog and all the great posts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Max</p>
<p>This is the first comment I am posting here because I was prompted by what &#8220;Sam&#8221; said. I actually do read your blog and I mean I really read it. Sam has ADD or just can&#8217;t read, because your treatment of guests has almost always been very positive, respectful, and gentlemanly. </p>
<p>Guests who abuse this blog or try to shut down opposing views, like they did with Mary, or who disrespect you personally don&#8217;t win the right to any respect in return. It&#8217;s simple, Sam should have figured this out on his own but was too lazy and one sided to bother.</p>
<p>Sam can go. I&#8217;m staying. Thanks for this blog and all the great posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;While they clearly disagreed with you, they didn’t call you names as you did them&quot;

Well, you&#039;re wrong, so you have not been reading closely. When someone calls me an &quot;asshole&quot; I can react as I please, and if that displeases you then so be it.

I think you expect that dissent will be more than just welcomed, it will be applauded. I am not required to agree with anyone who posts on this blog, and I am absolutely not here to please any and everyone.

Goodbye.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While they clearly disagreed with you, they didn’t call you names as you did them&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, you&#8217;re wrong, so you have not been reading closely. When someone calls me an &#8220;asshole&#8221; I can react as I please, and if that displeases you then so be it.</p>
<p>I think you expect that dissent will be more than just welcomed, it will be applauded. I am not required to agree with anyone who posts on this blog, and I am absolutely not here to please any and everyone.</p>
<p>Goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hadn&#039;t read the previous entries until this post. I&#039;ve been vaguely following your blog for a couple of months now, but now I&#039;m going to stop. I actually generally agree with your takes on imperialism, etc., but was pretty bothered by your treatment of your commenters. As someone who has had REAL trolls, I was pretty unimpressed by your judgment of them. While they clearly disagreed with you, they didn&#039;t call you names as you did them (who&#039;s the troll?), and I would LOVE to have such people comment on my blog with the sort of opportunity for discussion that brings with it. It is, I think, one of the coolest things ABOUT the internet medium. 

So, given that I&#039;ve said that I was bothered, you probably don&#039;t want me reading or commenting either (given what you said about Mary), and you&#039;re more than welcome to delete this. It&#039;s more to you personally than intended as a public statement. 

I could, of course, keep reading you anyway, but feeling like any dissenting opinion is unwelcome really poisoned my experience of your posts, so I&#039;ve decided not to. I&#039;m telling you because, were I in your place, I&#039;d want to know. I hope this isn&#039;t too unwelcome, but that&#039;s what the delete button is for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t read the previous entries until this post. I&#8217;ve been vaguely following your blog for a couple of months now, but now I&#8217;m going to stop. I actually generally agree with your takes on imperialism, etc., but was pretty bothered by your treatment of your commenters. As someone who has had REAL trolls, I was pretty unimpressed by your judgment of them. While they clearly disagreed with you, they didn&#8217;t call you names as you did them (who&#8217;s the troll?), and I would LOVE to have such people comment on my blog with the sort of opportunity for discussion that brings with it. It is, I think, one of the coolest things ABOUT the internet medium. </p>
<p>So, given that I&#8217;ve said that I was bothered, you probably don&#8217;t want me reading or commenting either (given what you said about Mary), and you&#8217;re more than welcome to delete this. It&#8217;s more to you personally than intended as a public statement. </p>
<p>I could, of course, keep reading you anyway, but feeling like any dissenting opinion is unwelcome really poisoned my experience of your posts, so I&#8217;ve decided not to. I&#8217;m telling you because, were I in your place, I&#8217;d want to know. I hope this isn&#8217;t too unwelcome, but that&#8217;s what the delete button is for.</p>
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