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	<title>Comments on: Economics Blogs in a Time of Crisis: Policy, Development, Globalization, and Transformation</title>
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	<description>Turning and turning in the widening gyre &#124; The falcon cannot hear the falconer &#124; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold &#124; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world &#124; The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere &#124; The ceremony of innocence is drowned &#124; The best lack all conviction, while the worst &#124; Are full of passionate intensity. -- W.B. Yeats, The Second Coming</description>
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		<title>By: Anthro Hits the Links &#171; Neuroanthropology</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/03/22/economics-blogs-in-a-time-of-crisis-policy-development-globalization-and-transformation/#comment-4966</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthro Hits the Links &#171; Neuroanthropology]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] by dlende on April 11, 2009   Open Anthropology has put together a great collection entitled Economics Blogs in a Time of Crisis: Policy, Development, Globalization, and Transformation. From neuroeconomics to bonobo land and political economy, you can find something to fit your taste [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by dlende on April 11, 2009   Open Anthropology has put together a great collection entitled Economics Blogs in a Time of Crisis: Policy, Development, Globalization, and Transformation. From neuroeconomics to bonobo land and political economy, you can find something to fit your taste [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Thoma is a badass&#8230; &#171; Open Economics</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/03/22/economics-blogs-in-a-time-of-crisis-policy-development-globalization-and-transformation/#comment-4869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Thoma is a badass&#8230; &#171; Open Economics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] say that the range of views being presented at Economist&#8217;s View gets a gold star (not quite a red star, [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/03/22/economics-blogs-in-a-time-of-crisis-policy-development-globalization-and-transformation/#comment-4815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you very much Mistah Charley...for the meantime, let me add those links here until I can revise the post further:

THE BASELINE SCENARIO
http://baselinescenario.com/

THE AUTOMATIC EARTH
http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com

I have only had a few moments to look at both, but I think you are right, they are quite interesting.

Then there is your own, at http://mistahcharley.blogspot.com/, not so much an economics blog of course, but certainly in line with some of the pessimistic skepticism that you mentioned, and which I share as well of course -- pessimistic skepticism, at the very least, is a minimal requirement in this age of utter absurdity, irrationality, unfairness, and injustice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much Mistah Charley&#8230;for the meantime, let me add those links here until I can revise the post further:</p>
<p>THE BASELINE SCENARIO<br />
<a href="http://baselinescenario.com/" rel="nofollow">http://baselinescenario.com/</a></p>
<p>THE AUTOMATIC EARTH<br />
<a href="http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>I have only had a few moments to look at both, but I think you are right, they are quite interesting.</p>
<p>Then there is your own, at <a href="http://mistahcharley.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mistahcharley.blogspot.com/</a>, not so much an economics blog of course, but certainly in line with some of the pessimistic skepticism that you mentioned, and which I share as well of course &#8212; pessimistic skepticism, at the very least, is a minimal requirement in this age of utter absurdity, irrationality, unfairness, and injustice.</p>
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		<title>By: mistah charley, ph.d.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mistah charley, ph.d.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to suggest &quot;The Baseline Scenario&quot;, a blog by Simon Johnson (former IMF chief economist whose recent article in The Atlantic Monthly &quot;The Quiet Coup&quot; is attracting a lot of attention) and James Kwak.  In addition to daily commentary they have a very useful series of posts &quot;Financial Crisis for Beginners.&quot;

More &quot;ground-level&quot; is theautomaticearth dot blogspot dot com - the pessimistic skepticism of the authors resonates with my own mood, but your mileage may vary.  Their graphic design, with a vintage photo at the top of each post, is appealing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to suggest &#8220;The Baseline Scenario&#8221;, a blog by Simon Johnson (former IMF chief economist whose recent article in The Atlantic Monthly &#8220;The Quiet Coup&#8221; is attracting a lot of attention) and James Kwak.  In addition to daily commentary they have a very useful series of posts &#8220;Financial Crisis for Beginners.&#8221;</p>
<p>More &#8220;ground-level&#8221; is theautomaticearth dot blogspot dot com &#8211; the pessimistic skepticism of the authors resonates with my own mood, but your mileage may vary.  Their graphic design, with a vintage photo at the top of each post, is appealing.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Norman,

I have been having a fantastic day downloading and reading several of the papers on your site, mostly focused on New World. I have been looking forward to this for a long time. I will also be checking UWI Press.

That is quite funny about Polanyi-Levitt, it seems that it&#039;s easier to find her in the Caribbean than in Montreal.

Also, my email address is max.forte@openanthropology.org

Very best wishes and many thanks again,

Max.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Norman,</p>
<p>I have been having a fantastic day downloading and reading several of the papers on your site, mostly focused on New World. I have been looking forward to this for a long time. I will also be checking UWI Press.</p>
<p>That is quite funny about Polanyi-Levitt, it seems that it&#8217;s easier to find her in the Caribbean than in Montreal.</p>
<p>Also, my email address is <a href="mailto:max.forte@openanthropology.org">max.forte@openanthropology.org</a></p>
<p>Very best wishes and many thanks again,</p>
<p>Max.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman Girvan</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/03/22/economics-blogs-in-a-time-of-crisis-policy-development-globalization-and-transformation/#comment-4708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Girvan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Max, 

thanks for our gracious and generous response! Yes I think your characterisation of what happend at the IIR Conference is probably spot on. BTW you would be interested to know that a major conference was held on &quot;The Thought of New World: The Quest for Intelellectual Decolonization&quot;, be the Centre for Caribbean Thought at Mona (Jamaica) U.W.I. in June of 2005. The proceedings are being co-edited for publication (which should be in early 2010) by Prof Brian Meeks at Mona and myself. I gave one of the keynotes at that Conference and would be happy to share it with you but it is not yet in general circulation.

Re Kari Polanyi-Levitt: I am in regular touch with her and we were together at the Globalization Conference in Cuba less than a month ago! Her book with LLoyd Best &quot;Essays on the Theory of Plantation Economy&quot; has just been published by UWI Press, and in Spanish in Cuba by Casa de las Americas. If you give me your email address I can bring you more up to date with Kari.

BTW: your webmaster or WordPress should be able to tell you how to get rid of rhe annoying strikethrough. I also use WordPress! 

Cheers, and thanks again.

Norman]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Max, </p>
<p>thanks for our gracious and generous response! Yes I think your characterisation of what happend at the IIR Conference is probably spot on. BTW you would be interested to know that a major conference was held on &#8220;The Thought of New World: The Quest for Intelellectual Decolonization&#8221;, be the Centre for Caribbean Thought at Mona (Jamaica) U.W.I. in June of 2005. The proceedings are being co-edited for publication (which should be in early 2010) by Prof Brian Meeks at Mona and myself. I gave one of the keynotes at that Conference and would be happy to share it with you but it is not yet in general circulation.</p>
<p>Re Kari Polanyi-Levitt: I am in regular touch with her and we were together at the Globalization Conference in Cuba less than a month ago! Her book with LLoyd Best &#8220;Essays on the Theory of Plantation Economy&#8221; has just been published by UWI Press, and in Spanish in Cuba by Casa de las Americas. If you give me your email address I can bring you more up to date with Kari.</p>
<p>BTW: your webmaster or WordPress should be able to tell you how to get rid of rhe annoying strikethrough. I also use WordPress! </p>
<p>Cheers, and thanks again.</p>
<p>Norman</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/03/22/economics-blogs-in-a-time-of-crisis-policy-development-globalization-and-transformation/#comment-4700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Norman,

This is one of those occasions where I welcome someone having a laugh at my expense, because the correction you brought here is very important and very valuable. I was a student in the Diploma program in IR that year, attending the conference. It was almost 19 years ago. I remember that the discussions were very polarized -- that development was classed as Eurocentric by those on the St. Augustine side, while those on the Mona side seemed very keen to engage in policy-related applied research that took what was then the current situation as a given (under IMF and World Bank mandated structural adjustment). In that light, it seems that both sides placed each other under particular shadows, and sometimes one&#039;s impressions are reinforced through discussion, revision, and repetition among like-minded students.

It is great then that after so many years, I can finally &quot;re-live&quot; the experience with one of the key actors and have my impressions corrected. I did not know how to correct the post above, without then making your comment seem irrelevant, hence the lengthy strike-through, which will surely be followed by a more thoughtful revision.

Incidentally, I very much doubt that you could bore either my readers, or really any readers that I can imagine, at least educated ones. Many thanks for pointing out some of the critical articles -- I am working my way slowly through that treasure trove that you generously put together, and I will certainly read the essays that you indicated.

One last little note for now -- when the New World Movement emerged in the Caribbean, I doubt that their intended audience would have encompassed an Italian-Canadian (me), and that their work would prove to have a permanently transformative impact on such a person. I have tried to get in touch with Kari Polanyi-Levitt at McGill, to ask about this Montreal chapter of the NWM that I have heard about almost in passing...and you would think that six short city blocks was an inter-galactic distance: it has proven to be impossible for our tracks to ever cross. Therefore I am very grateful again for &quot;accidents&quot; such as these.

Consider me one of your regular readers.

Very best wishes and take excellent care of yourself,

Max.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Norman,</p>
<p>This is one of those occasions where I welcome someone having a laugh at my expense, because the correction you brought here is very important and very valuable. I was a student in the Diploma program in IR that year, attending the conference. It was almost 19 years ago. I remember that the discussions were very polarized &#8212; that development was classed as Eurocentric by those on the St. Augustine side, while those on the Mona side seemed very keen to engage in policy-related applied research that took what was then the current situation as a given (under IMF and World Bank mandated structural adjustment). In that light, it seems that both sides placed each other under particular shadows, and sometimes one&#8217;s impressions are reinforced through discussion, revision, and repetition among like-minded students.</p>
<p>It is great then that after so many years, I can finally &#8220;re-live&#8221; the experience with one of the key actors and have my impressions corrected. I did not know how to correct the post above, without then making your comment seem irrelevant, hence the lengthy strike-through, which will surely be followed by a more thoughtful revision.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I very much doubt that you could bore either my readers, or really any readers that I can imagine, at least educated ones. Many thanks for pointing out some of the critical articles &#8212; I am working my way slowly through that treasure trove that you generously put together, and I will certainly read the essays that you indicated.</p>
<p>One last little note for now &#8212; when the New World Movement emerged in the Caribbean, I doubt that their intended audience would have encompassed an Italian-Canadian (me), and that their work would prove to have a permanently transformative impact on such a person. I have tried to get in touch with Kari Polanyi-Levitt at McGill, to ask about this Montreal chapter of the NWM that I have heard about almost in passing&#8230;and you would think that six short city blocks was an inter-galactic distance: it has proven to be impossible for our tracks to ever cross. Therefore I am very grateful again for &#8220;accidents&#8221; such as these.</p>
<p>Consider me one of your regular readers.</p>
<p>Very best wishes and take excellent care of yourself,</p>
<p>Max.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman Girvan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman Girvan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Mr Forte,

greetings!I found your blog through the link to mine. I really appreciate your review of blogs. But I must admit I had a good laugh at the decscription of me as becoming a 
&#039;notorious free-maketeer and pro-capitalist&#039; in the 1990s! I could hardly recognise myself! I certainly don&#039;t agree that critical reflection on the lessons to be learnt by the &#039;socialist&#039; experiments in Jamaica and Guyana in the 1970s (which was among the subjects of the lecture you mention, Rethinking Development), and particularly of the use of state enterprises as tools of partonage of the Party in power, is the same as espousing privatization orthodoxy--surely one can be critical of one experience without advocating its polar opposite! The same holds for the differences I had with a particluiar expression of the World Systems theory at the IIR Students Conference to which I think you must be referring. 

Max, if you check out my work, I think if you would be very hard put to find a defence of the free market, neoliberalism and neo-liberal globalisation (a lot of the more recent papers are available as free downloads on my blog, by the way), in fact I have been very critical from the time of the ill-fated liberalisation of the Jamaican currency way back in 1990, and I have been a leading critic of the infamous Economic Partnership Agreement foisted on the countries of the Caribbean by the European Union in 2008 (lots of stuff on this also my blog, BTW, by YT and many other writers). 

Anyway, I could write a lot more about this but only at the risk of boring your readers. In case you are interested, I did a synopsis of the evolution of my work and thinking called &quot;One Thing Lead to Another&quot; which is in the &#039;About Norman&#039; section of the website. So, great to be (back) in touch, thanks for mentioning my blog, hope you will be &#039;hopeful&#039; enough to check out its offerings and that there will be more opportunties for intellectual (and political) exchange on &#039;matters of mutual interest&#039;.

Yours, Norman  

PS If you read only one thing on the blog I beg you to look at &quot;Power Imbalances and Development Knowledge&quot; in the &quot;Caribbean Thought&quot; categrory!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mr Forte,</p>
<p>greetings!I found your blog through the link to mine. I really appreciate your review of blogs. But I must admit I had a good laugh at the decscription of me as becoming a<br />
&#8216;notorious free-maketeer and pro-capitalist&#8217; in the 1990s! I could hardly recognise myself! I certainly don&#8217;t agree that critical reflection on the lessons to be learnt by the &#8216;socialist&#8217; experiments in Jamaica and Guyana in the 1970s (which was among the subjects of the lecture you mention, Rethinking Development), and particularly of the use of state enterprises as tools of partonage of the Party in power, is the same as espousing privatization orthodoxy&#8211;surely one can be critical of one experience without advocating its polar opposite! The same holds for the differences I had with a particluiar expression of the World Systems theory at the IIR Students Conference to which I think you must be referring. </p>
<p>Max, if you check out my work, I think if you would be very hard put to find a defence of the free market, neoliberalism and neo-liberal globalisation (a lot of the more recent papers are available as free downloads on my blog, by the way), in fact I have been very critical from the time of the ill-fated liberalisation of the Jamaican currency way back in 1990, and I have been a leading critic of the infamous Economic Partnership Agreement foisted on the countries of the Caribbean by the European Union in 2008 (lots of stuff on this also my blog, BTW, by YT and many other writers). </p>
<p>Anyway, I could write a lot more about this but only at the risk of boring your readers. In case you are interested, I did a synopsis of the evolution of my work and thinking called &#8220;One Thing Lead to Another&#8221; which is in the &#8216;About Norman&#8217; section of the website. So, great to be (back) in touch, thanks for mentioning my blog, hope you will be &#8216;hopeful&#8217; enough to check out its offerings and that there will be more opportunties for intellectual (and political) exchange on &#8216;matters of mutual interest&#8217;.</p>
<p>Yours, Norman  </p>
<p>PS If you read only one thing on the blog I beg you to look at &#8220;Power Imbalances and Development Knowledge&#8221; in the &#8220;Caribbean Thought&#8221; categrory!</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks Mr. Murphy -- there is of course a lot that I missed, but I am thankful for inputs here. Just so that people can readily access those sites, the links are below:

http://petemurphy.wordpress.com/ (the blog)

http://openwindowpublishingco.com/ (the book website)

And, a short clip from the author biography, which I found very interesting:

&quot;Pete Murphy retired in 2004 after working for thirty years in manufacturing and engineering for a major chemical company.  During those thirty years, he witnessed first hand the devastating impact that globalization has had on U.S. manufacturing.  In 1993 he began formulating his theory of population density-induced decline in per capita consumption....He holds a BS degree in mechanical engineering from the University of Notre Dame and began his career following three years of service as an officer in the U.S. Navy....He currently resides...in southeast Michigan - &quot;ground zero&quot; of the devastation inflicted by blind trade on U.S. manufacturing.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks Mr. Murphy &#8212; there is of course a lot that I missed, but I am thankful for inputs here. Just so that people can readily access those sites, the links are below:</p>
<p><a href="http://petemurphy.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://petemurphy.wordpress.com/</a> (the blog)</p>
<p><a href="http://openwindowpublishingco.com/" rel="nofollow">http://openwindowpublishingco.com/</a> (the book website)</p>
<p>And, a short clip from the author biography, which I found very interesting:</p>
<p>&#8220;Pete Murphy retired in 2004 after working for thirty years in manufacturing and engineering for a major chemical company.  During those thirty years, he witnessed first hand the devastating impact that globalization has had on U.S. manufacturing.  In 1993 he began formulating his theory of population density-induced decline in per capita consumption&#8230;.He holds a BS degree in mechanical engineering from the University of Notre Dame and began his career following three years of service as an officer in the U.S. Navy&#8230;.He currently resides&#8230;in southeast Michigan &#8211; &#8220;ground zero&#8221; of the devastation inflicted by blind trade on U.S. manufacturing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Murphy</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/03/22/economics-blogs-in-a-time-of-crisis-policy-development-globalization-and-transformation/#comment-4666</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You missed the only blog that deals with a new economic theory, the only one that really explains what&#039;s become of our economy.  This theory exposes the relationship between population density, per capita consumption and rising unemployment.  This is a relationship that has gone unnoticed by traditional economists who are unwilling to consider the ramifications of population growth.  

If you‘re interested in learning more about this important new economic theory, then I invite you to visit either of my web sites at OpenWindowPublishingCo.com or PeteMurphy.wordpress.com where you can read the preface, join in the blog discussion and, of course, buy the book if you like. 

Pete Murphy
Author, &quot;Five Short Blasts&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed the only blog that deals with a new economic theory, the only one that really explains what&#8217;s become of our economy.  This theory exposes the relationship between population density, per capita consumption and rising unemployment.  This is a relationship that has gone unnoticed by traditional economists who are unwilling to consider the ramifications of population growth.  </p>
<p>If you‘re interested in learning more about this important new economic theory, then I invite you to visit either of my web sites at OpenWindowPublishingCo.com or PeteMurphy.wordpress.com where you can read the preface, join in the blog discussion and, of course, buy the book if you like. </p>
<p>Pete Murphy<br />
Author, &#8220;Five Short Blasts&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks Fhar for that link, the link to your own site, and for your comments on the blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks Fhar for that link, the link to your own site, and for your comments on the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Fhar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fhar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much a technology blog as economics, but recently more focused on the latter:

http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much a technology blog as economics, but recently more focused on the latter:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/</a></p>
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