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	<description>Turning and turning in the widening gyre &#124; The falcon cannot hear the falconer &#124; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold &#124; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world &#124; The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere &#124; The ceremony of innocence is drowned &#124; The best lack all conviction, while the worst &#124; Are full of passionate intensity. -- W.B. Yeats, The Second Coming</description>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6859</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, I was not claiming anything. A specific claim was made on a specific day that 3 million people had come out on the streets, and there was no such massive demonstration.

As far as anyone knows, the army never attacked people. The paramilitary and the police did. Different institutions, with different political implications in their use, which is why the regime never dared to use the army.

There may in fact be a language problem here. Don&#039;t be so quick to judge something &quot;bullshit&quot; unless you can prove your claims. By the way, there is in fact a lot of bullshit on YouTube, so just telling people to look at it, is quite meaningless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I was not claiming anything. A specific claim was made on a specific day that 3 million people had come out on the streets, and there was no such massive demonstration.</p>
<p>As far as anyone knows, the army never attacked people. The paramilitary and the police did. Different institutions, with different political implications in their use, which is why the regime never dared to use the army.</p>
<p>There may in fact be a language problem here. Don&#8217;t be so quick to judge something &#8220;bullshit&#8221; unless you can prove your claims. By the way, there is in fact a lot of bullshit on YouTube, so just telling people to look at it, is quite meaningless.</p>
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		<title>By: Pooria</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6856</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT THERE WASN&#039;T 3 MILLION IN STREETS?????!!!!!!!! ON AZADI SQ.???? OR THE ARMY WASN&#039;T ATTACKING PEOPLE? 

ARE YOU AWARE OF SOMETHING CALLED YOUTUBE? PLEASE WATCH SOME OF THE MOVIES FIRST AND THEN POST...

I don&#039;t know how could someone possibly write such bullshits!! If you don&#039;t like US&#039;s politics, that&#039;s fine. but remember, THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS NOT ALWAYS MY FRIEND. you hate US gov, US gov hates Iran gov, so you think you should LOVE Iran gov??!!

I&#039;M IRANIAN- FROM TEHRAN.
sorry for bad English :-)


however, it doesn&#039;t matter. just wait 1 month. in a month, the colleges will open AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IS THIS A REVOLUTION OR NOT!! just wait :-))]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT THERE WASN&#8217;T 3 MILLION IN STREETS?????!!!!!!!! ON AZADI SQ.???? OR THE ARMY WASN&#8217;T ATTACKING PEOPLE? </p>
<p>ARE YOU AWARE OF SOMETHING CALLED YOUTUBE? PLEASE WATCH SOME OF THE MOVIES FIRST AND THEN POST&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how could someone possibly write such bullshits!! If you don&#8217;t like US&#8217;s politics, that&#8217;s fine. but remember, THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS NOT ALWAYS MY FRIEND. you hate US gov, US gov hates Iran gov, so you think you should LOVE Iran gov??!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;M IRANIAN- FROM TEHRAN.<br />
sorry for bad English :-)</p>
<p>however, it doesn&#8217;t matter. just wait 1 month. in a month, the colleges will open AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IS THIS A REVOLUTION OR NOT!! just wait :-))</p>
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		<title>By: Retweet Revolution &#171; Kristina Grifantini</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6833</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Retweet Revolution &#171; Kristina Grifantini]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] have questioned if tweeting Iranian protestors are in fact who they say they are or masqueraders (this blog post at Open Anthropology gives a detailed skeptic’s look at the “revolution,” criticizing Twitter information as being [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have questioned if tweeting Iranian protestors are in fact who they say they are or masqueraders (this blog post at Open Anthropology gives a detailed skeptic’s look at the “revolution,” criticizing Twitter information as being [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Looking Back at June 2009, Looking Forward &#171; OPEN ANTHROPOLOGY</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Looking Back at June 2009, Looking Forward &#171; OPEN ANTHROPOLOGY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] best months yet for this blog (with hidden ironies for me), thanks in large part to the article, America&#8217;s Iranian Twitter Revolution, published just days after the street protests began in Tehran, alongside the explosion of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] best months yet for this blog (with hidden ironies for me), thanks in large part to the article, America&#8217;s Iranian Twitter Revolution, published just days after the street protests began in Tehran, alongside the explosion of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Annotated Bibliography: Twitter and the Iranian Election Protests &#171; OPEN ANTHROPOLOGY</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6283</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Annotated Bibliography: Twitter and the Iranian Election Protests &#171; OPEN ANTHROPOLOGY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 05:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] America&#8217;s Iranian Twitter Revolution Open Anthropology, Maximilian C. Forte, 17 June 2009 http://openanthropology.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/ Extract: &#8220;So in this Twitter revolution, Twitter is not representative of Internet users, Internet use is not representative of a wider population, the youth are not representative of the youth, and the Iranians may not even be Iranian. Fantastic indeed, this power of &#8217;social media&#8217;.&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] America&#8217;s Iranian Twitter Revolution Open Anthropology, Maximilian C. Forte, 17 June 2009 <a href="http://openanthropology.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/" rel="nofollow">http://openanthropology.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/</a> Extract: &#8220;So in this Twitter revolution, Twitter is not representative of Internet users, Internet use is not representative of a wider population, the youth are not representative of the youth, and the Iranians may not even be Iranian. Fantastic indeed, this power of &#8217;social media&#8217;.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Footnote 20</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6267</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Or that the communication methods themselves are predisposed toward carrying a specific type of “social change” meme &#8211; twitter, for example, was predisposed t.... [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Or that the communication methods themselves are predisposed toward carrying a specific type of “social change” meme &#8211; twitter, for example, was predisposed t&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Twitterul si alegerile iraniene &#124; DaLinku - Linkuri pentru oameni ca noi</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6262</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Twitterul si alegerile iraniene &#124; DaLinku - Linkuri pentru oameni ca noi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Aici e un articol exhaustiv despre toată afacerea, unul cu bibliografie. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Aici e un articol exhaustiv despre toată afacerea, unul cu bibliografie. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6177</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess the hearts were in the right place with all the Iran tweets but I swear some of the same people who were tinting their avatars green said absolutely nothing about the election shenanigans happening in our own country 9 years ago.

I know Twitter wasn&#039;t &quot;invented&quot; then but I can&#039;t help but wonder if these gestures were about &quot;me, too&quot;.  As soon as I heard the the State Department was suggesting to Twitter that they delay a scheduled downtime, I knew this was basically about American propaganda.  I guess &quot;our guy&quot; lost the election over there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the hearts were in the right place with all the Iran tweets but I swear some of the same people who were tinting their avatars green said absolutely nothing about the election shenanigans happening in our own country 9 years ago.</p>
<p>I know Twitter wasn&#8217;t &#8220;invented&#8221; then but I can&#8217;t help but wonder if these gestures were about &#8220;me, too&#8221;.  As soon as I heard the the State Department was suggesting to Twitter that they delay a scheduled downtime, I knew this was basically about American propaganda.  I guess &#8220;our guy&#8221; lost the election over there.</p>
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		<title>By: Does Twitter Deserve a Nobel Peace Prize? Maybe Not Yet, But It Could Someday &#124; eMediaOne</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6158</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Does Twitter Deserve a Nobel Peace Prize? Maybe Not Yet, But It Could Someday &#124; eMediaOne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a counterpoint to much of this thinking see this long post critiquing the Twitter/Iran connection by Max Forte of Open [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Maximilian Forte</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6143</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maximilian Forte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks very much for your comments and analyses Tali.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much for your comments and analyses Tali.</p>
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		<title>By: Tali</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6125</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sayed,
Finally an Iranian voice! I think many of us would like to hear serious, in depth Iranian analysis of the situation (not just on-the-moment twitters). It&#039;s probably just as hard for you to asses your situation right now, as it is for anyone outside- it&#039;s just a little too soon. But you have one right that none of us have, and that is to express what you want. What we/Americans/the international community wants, is irrelevant, unless it chooses to support you and your rights.

This correlates with Max&#039;s comment. I think the Latin Americans are fed up with outside interference. And it&#039;s no surprise. The question of interference is pivotal today, as we see all the destruction it has wrought. In my experience with the Palestinians (where I will always be an outsider, even though/because I come in solidarity), at anytime, when coming from outside, with good intentions, we should make an extreme effort to be delicate. I have my own firm opinions of the situation, but their wish is the first on my agenda. I find that asking questions is a good way to start true debate, which the aim of is learning and not telling.

As a Palestinian friend once said to me &quot;Because if and when your repentance is genuine it will automatically show in your actions&quot;- I think that if our care is genuine, for our fellow human beings, it will automatically show in our actions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sayed,<br />
Finally an Iranian voice! I think many of us would like to hear serious, in depth Iranian analysis of the situation (not just on-the-moment twitters). It&#8217;s probably just as hard for you to asses your situation right now, as it is for anyone outside- it&#8217;s just a little too soon. But you have one right that none of us have, and that is to express what you want. What we/Americans/the international community wants, is irrelevant, unless it chooses to support you and your rights.</p>
<p>This correlates with Max&#8217;s comment. I think the Latin Americans are fed up with outside interference. And it&#8217;s no surprise. The question of interference is pivotal today, as we see all the destruction it has wrought. In my experience with the Palestinians (where I will always be an outsider, even though/because I come in solidarity), at anytime, when coming from outside, with good intentions, we should make an extreme effort to be delicate. I have my own firm opinions of the situation, but their wish is the first on my agenda. I find that asking questions is a good way to start true debate, which the aim of is learning and not telling.</p>
<p>As a Palestinian friend once said to me &#8220;Because if and when your repentance is genuine it will automatically show in your actions&#8221;- I think that if our care is genuine, for our fellow human beings, it will automatically show in our actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Tali</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recomend 

Democracy Now! -  http://www.democracynow.org/
The Real News Network - http://www.democracynow.org/
Znet - http://www.zmag.org/

Too much emphasis is put on the importance of moment to moment news. Although timely news is important, I think that can be gathered in bites from the mainstream media. You just have to be wary about what is reported, and about half a day later go out to serious journalists, you trust (accumulating sources you trust takes some active effort on your part, but is totally worth it in the long run), and get the meaningful analysis. That way you make sure that you&#039;re not being fed a load of bollocks, not to mention you will, at that moment become a responsible citizen of the world, which is sourly lacking right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recomend </p>
<p>Democracy Now! &#8211;  <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/</a><br />
The Real News Network &#8211; <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/</a><br />
Znet &#8211; <a href="http://www.zmag.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zmag.org/</a></p>
<p>Too much emphasis is put on the importance of moment to moment news. Although timely news is important, I think that can be gathered in bites from the mainstream media. You just have to be wary about what is reported, and about half a day later go out to serious journalists, you trust (accumulating sources you trust takes some active effort on your part, but is totally worth it in the long run), and get the meaningful analysis. That way you make sure that you&#8217;re not being fed a load of bollocks, not to mention you will, at that moment become a responsible citizen of the world, which is sourly lacking right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tali</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6122</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael, I don&#039;t know your motives, so I&#039;ll tread carefully. What you did with this comment is stopping short of calling Max anti-Semite. I&#039;d be careful with these  kind of accusations, as we all know &quot;new anti-Semitism&quot; is the new &quot;wolf&quot; , Zionists have been crying for ages now. At no point in the article did Max say &quot;Jews&quot;- you, on the other hand, did. 

Though I doubt any twitter organizing on the part of Israel- really, Israelis don&#039;t need any incentive to bash on Iran and call it a terrorist state- Hasbara is so etched in our abused minds, most Israelis will participate in it instinctively, and so will many Jews around the world.

On the other hand, Israeli authorities and media didn&#039;t really care much for the &quot;Iranian revolution&quot;, beyond the systematic alignment it needs to do every once in a while, in order to &quot;appease the Americans&quot;. The irony for me, as I was coming back from my own protest, being tear gassed and shot at, was hearing on radio talk shows the analysis that Iran is a tyrannical fascist state. When in fact, in Israel, the elections need not be rigged- it&#039;s been an orgy of Labor-Likud, since it&#039;s inception, and the media doesn&#039;t contest this, but is mobilized by the state. 

I&#039;d also like to take this opportunity to address the term conspiracy theory: 
1. Conspiracy implies something secretive- The Zionist control of the media, in Israel and in the US is no secret. Feel free to look up CAMARA, for example. 
2. &quot;Conspiracy theory&quot; used to be a neutral term, abused by those in power, since the 60&#039;s, to discredit dissent. Though I disagree with Max, on that point, I don&#039;t think he stressed it enough to even comment about it. And I do agree that Israel has much to &quot;gain&quot;, by screaming Iran is fascist, hoping it would push the US to do what it did in Iraq. Most probably, the reason they didn&#039;t , is because they saw Obama just isn&#039;t going that rout.

My point is, that when you use this term, along with the accusation of anti-Semitism and equating Max with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (i.e. &quot;Muslim apologist&quot;/&quot;Hamas apologist&quot;/&quot;Hezbollah apologist&quot;), you are demonizing him, using Zionist tactics, no less.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I don&#8217;t know your motives, so I&#8217;ll tread carefully. What you did with this comment is stopping short of calling Max anti-Semite. I&#8217;d be careful with these  kind of accusations, as we all know &#8220;new anti-Semitism&#8221; is the new &#8220;wolf&#8221; , Zionists have been crying for ages now. At no point in the article did Max say &#8220;Jews&#8221;- you, on the other hand, did. </p>
<p>Though I doubt any twitter organizing on the part of Israel- really, Israelis don&#8217;t need any incentive to bash on Iran and call it a terrorist state- Hasbara is so etched in our abused minds, most Israelis will participate in it instinctively, and so will many Jews around the world.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Israeli authorities and media didn&#8217;t really care much for the &#8220;Iranian revolution&#8221;, beyond the systematic alignment it needs to do every once in a while, in order to &#8220;appease the Americans&#8221;. The irony for me, as I was coming back from my own protest, being tear gassed and shot at, was hearing on radio talk shows the analysis that Iran is a tyrannical fascist state. When in fact, in Israel, the elections need not be rigged- it&#8217;s been an orgy of Labor-Likud, since it&#8217;s inception, and the media doesn&#8217;t contest this, but is mobilized by the state. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to take this opportunity to address the term conspiracy theory:<br />
1. Conspiracy implies something secretive- The Zionist control of the media, in Israel and in the US is no secret. Feel free to look up CAMARA, for example.<br />
2. &#8220;Conspiracy theory&#8221; used to be a neutral term, abused by those in power, since the 60&#8242;s, to discredit dissent. Though I disagree with Max, on that point, I don&#8217;t think he stressed it enough to even comment about it. And I do agree that Israel has much to &#8220;gain&#8221;, by screaming Iran is fascist, hoping it would push the US to do what it did in Iraq. Most probably, the reason they didn&#8217;t , is because they saw Obama just isn&#8217;t going that rout.</p>
<p>My point is, that when you use this term, along with the accusation of anti-Semitism and equating Max with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (i.e. &#8220;Muslim apologist&#8221;/&#8221;Hamas apologist&#8221;/&#8221;Hezbollah apologist&#8221;), you are demonizing him, using Zionist tactics, no less.</p>
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		<title>By: Tali</title>
		<link>http://zeroanthropology.net/2009/06/17/americas-iranian-twitter-revolution/#comment-6120</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not even gonna dignify that one with a reading. Down with Zionist propaganda and its taking over of the Jewish religion! (just having a private twitter intifada, if you don&#039;t mind ;) )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not even gonna dignify that one with a reading. Down with Zionist propaganda and its taking over of the Jewish religion! (just having a private twitter intifada, if you don&#8217;t mind ;) )</p>
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		<title>By: Tali</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Definitly the best analysis of the &quot;Twitter revolution&quot; I&#039;ve seen. Good going Max!

Frunchdude, it reminds me of Israel&#039;s ago old motto of &quot;crying and shooting&quot; (because we&#039;re so damn moral- in case you missed the bloody-handed cynicism)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitly the best analysis of the &#8220;Twitter revolution&#8221; I&#8217;ve seen. Good going Max!</p>
<p>Frunchdude, it reminds me of Israel&#8217;s ago old motto of &#8220;crying and shooting&#8221; (because we&#8217;re so damn moral- in case you missed the bloody-handed cynicism)</p>
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